Comments on: Why everyone should write a framework and never use it

By: Jose Kwach

Jose Kwach — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:53:48 +0000

Great lessons are acquired by re-inventing(innovating) the wheel..the problem I find with building an MVC is that educated people are busy giving me tonnes of my weakness rather than that little effort I need to learn, Happens alot especially since I was never formally trained programming in class..and it gets worse when you achieve ten times what the trainees have.

By: Queen Shillings

Queen Shillings — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:04:00 +0000

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By: Marcus Kielly

Marcus Kielly — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:48:35 +0000

I agree wholeheartedly – doing is integral to learning. You may never deploy your framework but it will help you understand the patterns involved. I don’t think it’s insane to roll your own for commercial use either – frameworks are built with a broad scope of use in mind. A homebrew mght help reduce the bloat incurred using an off the shelf solution. Having said that, it’s better for teams to work to a common target, and PHP doesn’t need another MVC framework…

By: Colleen

Colleen — Mon, 18 May 2009 00:16:08 +0000

I wrote a lightweight MVC framework long time ago and built a pretty large project on it mainly because at the time none of the PHP frameworks under development had the functionality or ease of use that I needed. I like some of the ZF modules and I know you can use them w/o the framweork. ZF still isn’t easy to use. And BTW back in the old days I wrote my own compiler too.

By: Shahriat Hossain

Shahriat Hossain — Sat, 02 May 2009 02:13:37 +0000

Thats looking good and it’s the reality that explore the framework would be the best part of the day ! To find out what the lacks belong to a programmer that would be the first step to go with writting a framework and about the design pattern i think must study Gang of Four :)

By: Brian the new guy

Brian the new guy — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:22:49 +0000

I want to learn PHP. Any suggestions?

By: Dalton Filho

Dalton Filho — Sun, 18 May 2008 19:16:31 +0000

I totally agree. I think you have to reinvent the wheel if you want to understand how the wheel works. I don’t want to imagine what would I be right now if I never had data structures classes where I had to (re)write them. I see many people going straight to Struts without even a good grasp on the Java basics. For heaven’s sake!! When it comes to learning, reinventing the wheel is a must.

By: jaisen

jaisen — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:37:41 +0000

@Tom,Peter … I’ve heard the same about the Zend Framework. Which brings up another great excercise. Building plugins/modules for existing applications will go a long way to help you get comfortable starting on an existing project with engineers. Which in my opinion is much harder than doing it yourself from scratch.

By: Peter Michaux

Peter Michaux — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:14:57 +0000

Tom, Highly modular frameworks (e.g. Catalyst from what I understand) allow you to pick and choose which parts you want to use. This reduces the need to write your own framework for the efficiency argument you make.

By: Tom

Tom — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:12:22 +0000

I feel it is important to point out that if you do write a cusom framework for a project, you can make sure it is streamlined and small to include only the necessary portions. If you use another framework, your website could end up being slower than it should be. Not practical for all projects, but for some it is very beneficial.